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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 17, 2007 11:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hot Tuna

hey hey johnnyonthespot.

Hot Tuna in the early to mid '70s... like micmac says, they were heavy hard rockers, when they rocked.

And then, they played some beautiful tunes like Water Song, Genesis, Watch The North Wind Rise...

and stuff inbetween like Killing Time In Crystal City.

I saw em do a great version of Crystal City in 1975 at Bimbo's down on Columbus Ave.

By '76 or '77 their rep for rocking out preceded them, and they began attracting the bridge and tunnel tough guys to their gigs, these clean cut kids who drank a lot and danced very aggressively.

But that was all part of the energy the Tuna gigs seemed to generate.

I saw the 2 night stand at Temple Beautiful, when they taped Double Dose in 1978 on the 2nd night.

Actually the 1st night (I thot at the time) was a better show.
The cool thing was, I paid for one ticket, to see the 1st nite. And they said from the stage, save the ticket stub - good for free admission the following nite.

Jorma kept leaving the stage to change t-shirts during the heated pressure of the live taping.

One song as I recall that really sounds good (the lead break) on DD is "Talkin' 'Bout You".

(TBY is not on the compilation or single lp version of the orig. double lp of Double Dose.)

I remember seeing Hot Tuna at Fillmore West in early '71, a great double bill (not including the Trinidad Steel Band also on the bill) because we got blown away by the 2nd band...
Allman Brothers, with Duane. Ow!!

I remember seeing Jorma play a non-Tuna show at Speedway Meadows circa 1979 in GG park.

He had all these tattoos on display (he went shirtless towards the end, and he had died his ducktail platinum blonde.
The old freaks were a little freaked, but hey, he was tryin' to keep pace with SVT.

SVT is an underrated spin-off of Tuna with Jack tryin' to keep up with the changes too.

I hung out at there drummer's house once, Paul Zahl, who eventually drummed for the Flamin' Groovies when SVT folded prematurely. Jack walked in. Quiet sort of dude.

RIP, Brian (lead singer, SVT).

Last time I saw Jack, about 4 years ago he was playin' acoustic in the afternoon at a 4 table coffee house.

I had flashes like it was 1965 all over again.
Wish it was, man.




This post was modified by cream-puff-war on 2007-11-18 07:06:19

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 18, 2007 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hot Tuna

Great stuff, CPW. Speaking of such things, an old friend in the Bay Area just sent me a disk set from Starship, QMS, and others at benefit of sorts in the East Bay within the past year or so...New singer for Grace, and not much to write home about overall. Kantner hasn't seemed to age well. Can't think of the name of it; damn, we're all getting old.

Anyhow, there is a "Peter Kaukonen" listed--is it Jorma's kid? Unrelated?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 18, 2007 5:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hot Tuna

Hey Tell. No, Peter is Jorma's brother and a phenominal player. Don't understand how he never made it. He had his own band called Black Kangaroo, the song Up Or Down the Airplane used to play was his tune. He plays guitar on the first song Mau Mau Americon that's on the first ( and best imo ) Starship album Blows Against the Empire. He later went on to play some Michael Hedges sounding percussive new agey kind of stuff, GOOD stuff. This was way before Chaquico made it big doing that. He played with the AIrplane on their reunion tour and then played a tour with his brother in Tuna. In fact there's some footage of this on you tube.

probably more than you wanted to know, but I'm a fan. : )

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 17, 2007 11:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hot Tuna

cream-puff, i think i'd have great fun digging through your attic

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Apr 23, 2008 1:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hot Tuna

you probably would at that, Arb!

...esp. as I live in the house owned by Cyril Jordan, former Flamin' Groovies leader, now of Magic Christian - he's lived here (in the same home) amassing rock and roll stuff etc. since the late '50s!



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Poster: Ellis Van Sofa Date: Nov 18, 2007 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hot Tuna

that is impressive indeed. the Flaming Groovies were one of the greatest bands that (almost) nobody ever heard of.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 17, 2007 11:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hot Tuna

thanks, pretty friggin' cool stuff, never heard 'em before, but i gotta ask, where can i get me a pair of them pants, lol!

[wouldn't mind hearing the entire gig ... does it circulate?]

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 18, 2007 12:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hot Tuna

did ya watch the other clips from the same guy - 4 songs from the same show (Sept. 22nd '07, Portland, Oregon at Dante's)
btw, that's (Magic Christian) Clem Burke on drums, from Blondie, Eddie Munoz from The Plimsouls on bass, Cyril of the Groovies on lead; and Paul on hot pants that he bought from Cheap Thrills a few months back on Haight St...

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